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Discussion Post: Squeeze and Conduit

Have at it! How much of a dick is Colton, anyway? What about Mulder - manipulative bastard or garden-variety harmless douche? Will Scully ever have a decent suit?

And don't forget to get your challenge fics in! This week's challenges will go up after the 10pm viewing party for Conduit.

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cold_rent
Apr. 23rd, 2007 12:47 am (UTC)
Garden Variety Harmless Douche. Most of the time. Like Colton would probably step on Scully to advance his career. Mulder wouldn't.
the_wanlorn
Apr. 23rd, 2007 12:51 am (UTC)
I definitely agree. I don't think he's all that manipulative when it comes to people he knows (the Gunmen, Scully, etc.), but oh he is such a douchebag and I love it!
cold_rent
Apr. 23rd, 2007 12:56 am (UTC)
The people he's truly an asshole to rather deserve it, like Krycek.
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the_wanlorn
Apr. 23rd, 2007 01:05 am (UTC)
Yes!!
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the_wanlorn
Apr. 23rd, 2007 01:04 am (UTC)
Oh god, were you the one I was arguing with over on TrustCancerman?

IF SO

When you put it that way, I totally get it, and have switched to agreeing with you. But that just makes me think more that he's kind of pathetic and thinks he's a loser and all that stuff.
cold_rent
Apr. 23rd, 2007 01:08 am (UTC)
But Mulder is kinda of pathetic, isn't he? He hides in the basement and does nothing to improve his reputation amongst his fellow agents. He's a tad immature in that regard, more than a tad, actually.

As for the loser stuff, I think he has flashes of emo!woe, like in Small Potatoes, but he doesn't really think it all the time or think it overtly. I think he sees himself as doing his own thang.
the_wanlorn
Apr. 23rd, 2007 01:16 am (UTC)
This is true. His "woe is me!" periods don't come that often and are never overtly woe! It's always saying something that could either be him not giving a damn about anything OR could be him being emo.

I can't actually see him ever spelling out in his brain "Gosh I'm a loser :(" or anything. More like "Huh, I wonder if Scully actually enjoys working on the X-Files since I've pretty much ruined her career. :\"
cold_rent
Apr. 23rd, 2007 01:18 am (UTC)
I think Scully would tell Mulder she ruined her career all on her own thankyouverymuch!

Then they would have sexy tiems.
the_wanlorn
Apr. 23rd, 2007 01:20 am (UTC)
Well where do you think he got the idea from??

Office sexytimes, yes?
cold_rent
Apr. 23rd, 2007 01:23 am (UTC)
That's the real reason Scully wanted another desk down there.
the_wanlorn
Apr. 23rd, 2007 01:34 am (UTC)
D: Oh gosh I think I know who you are... InsaneShipperMouse???
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the_wanlorn
Apr. 23rd, 2007 01:34 am (UTC)
HAHAHA. I didn't think it was bitchy at all! I have an unfortunate tendency to assume that all heidipologies are said in fun and games so they never sound bitchy to me.

Even when coming from Heidi herself. :(

Fowley. >:( I would nailbat her to the face if I could! I definitely agree with all that, but that makes me ask, well, is it really being manipulative is he can't not do it? I mean, obviously it is, but, okay. I associate being manipulative with being malicious. Whereas yeah, I'll agree that he is because he can't really switch it off, but to me that's not being manipulative, that's just being him. Which holy crap now that I'm typing it out is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Way to go me.

Also, there is a comment about the distinction between "believes in him" and "believes him" somewhere in there, and why Scully >>>>>>>>>> Fowley because of that, and how I wonder if he's ever had someone who believes in him other than his parents (depending on your view of his relationship with them) before but it's not coming out of my fingertips right.
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cold_rent
Apr. 23rd, 2007 01:52 am (UTC)
Personally, I can't believe I'm having X-Files related thoughts that go beyond, "Mulder, nnnnnnnnnngh."
the_wanlorn
Apr. 23rd, 2007 01:55 am (UTC)
Seriously. That comment took me almost 20 minutes to write because I kept having to go "Wait, that's not what I mean at all *delete delete delete*. Oh curses that's not coming out right either. English language, why must you be so woefully inadequate!!"

Then I go ask for recs from the meme.

IN OTHER NEWS I am reading and it is sounding awesome!! And I have some thoughts for getting Indy to be a teacher but they must be fleshed out first before I reveal them.
cold_rent
Apr. 23rd, 2007 03:10 am (UTC)
I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND I CAN'T WAIT!

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basepair
Apr. 23rd, 2007 12:49 am (UTC)
Colton is such a jerk. I hate how he can't even hide his annoyance that Mulder's questions asked during the metal detector test were valid. If he really wanted to be a supervisor, he'd need to pretend patience.

I think Mulder is probably manipulative, what with being an Oxford psychologist and all, but I don't think he's a douche.

Eugh, maybe this is why I love the later seasons so much - Scully looks so much better.
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motorwill
Apr. 23rd, 2007 01:03 am (UTC)
I think Scully described Mulder perfectly: "He's a jerk...no, he's not a jerk, just really obsessed with his work." So Mulder is an accidental Douche instead of a douche on purpose.
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the_wanlorn
Apr. 23rd, 2007 01:17 am (UTC)
Thus he's a loveable douchebag!
motorwill
Apr. 23rd, 2007 02:55 am (UTC)
Hah, yes! I normally wouldn't believe there could be such a thing as a loveable douchebag, but Mulder definitely qualifies. :D
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